Lisa, did you see through Madeleine's fake coffee invite? LK: No, I was super into her, but I felt like I was getting no traction for a long time.MG: She was a celebrity to me, so I didn't want to come across as fawning or anything. MG: I failed to make eye contact at every turn, just to make sure she didn't get the wrong idea.I kept thinking, "Well, this is obviously just going to end, because this is ridiculous. " My friends had been going to see her at PS 122 for years.She was known as "our Madonna."LK: [The downtown performance world] is so tiny.
[When she picked me up] Madeleine said, "We have to go in this deli and we have to buy beer, because this date is not going to be possible unless we start drinking now," so we bought beer, which we drank out of paper bags as we walked up. I used to write at The Writers Room in Astor Place and I had told Madeleine that she should also go.
LK: She denies it, but she knows that it's true, and she was not wrong. MG: My sister gives out what she calls "butch dating advice" and when I was trying to switch from fake career advice to an actual date, my sister was like, "Don't mince words. Instead they're like, "Let's have a book club, or whatever…" I'd never done anything like that before, but it really paid off. I was thinking that I was really going to take the bull by the horns.
I'm a much better teacher since I've been with Madeleine George. LK: I don't think I'd ever been on a date before, actually. I emailed her and was like, "I'll plan us a fine night, and you'll show up at this hour and I'll sweep you off your feet." The next day I get a response from her being like, "That sounds amazing, but I have a couple of suggestions about what we might want to do." In the end, the date was entirely her plan. I was in this Spalding Gray show Stories Left to Tell [at Minetta Lane Theatre] so Madeleine picked me up in the theatre after the show. When did you realize that you were each other's "the one"?
[In my early twenties] I can remember standing at the copier and photocopying 2.5 Minute Ride, against copyright laws. Madeleine, it's interesting that you came into this relationship seeing Lisa as sort of a celebrity…
MG: The thing that was so great for me was that because I felt like it was inconceivable that we would be together, I was able to be with her for quite awhile during a time that I think I would normally have been too panicked to stay.